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	<title>Comments on: Copenhagen-Amsterdam War in the VogelVrije Fietser</title>
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		<title>By: Branko Collin</title>
		<link>http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2010/01/13/tidbits-from-the-vogelvrije-fietser/comment-page-1/#comment-14121</link>
		<dc:creator>Branko Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Vogelvrije fietser&#039; means &#039;cyclist at large.&#039; It means both &#039;free as a bird&#039; and &#039;hunted prey.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Vogelvrije fietser&#8217; means &#8216;cyclist at large.&#8217; It means both &#8216;free as a bird&#8217; and &#8216;hunted prey.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2010/01/13/tidbits-from-the-vogelvrije-fietser/comment-page-1/#comment-13371</link>
		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha Mark, Mijn nederlands taalvaardigheid is ook wel goed hoor! Ik schreef &quot;literal&quot; en niet &quot;figurative&quot; of &quot;real&quot; vertaling. Als je tussen de regels leest zal je zulke &quot;naïve&quot; (niet dus) misverstanden vaker in mijn blog tegenkomen. Probeer bijvoorbeeld: 
http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2009/07/30/unclear-on-the-concept-cargobike-style/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha Mark, Mijn nederlands taalvaardigheid is ook wel goed hoor! Ik schreef &#8220;literal&#8221; en niet &#8220;figurative&#8221; of &#8220;real&#8221; vertaling. Als je tussen de regels leest zal je zulke &#8220;naïve&#8221; (niet dus) misverstanden vaker in mijn blog tegenkomen. Probeer bijvoorbeeld:<br />
<a href="http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2009/07/30/unclear-on-the-concept-cargobike-style/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2009/07/30/unclear-on-the-concept-cargobike-style/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2010/01/13/tidbits-from-the-vogelvrije-fietser/comment-page-1/#comment-13341</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a comment on your translation of: “VogelVrije Fietser” of which you say: (literal translation: “Birdfree Cyclist”)

That is not quite right, &quot;vogelvrij&quot; simply means &quot;outlaw&quot; so the literal translation is &#039;the outlaw cyclist&#039;. They started in a time that even in the Netherlands cyclists were seen as such. But the pun is in the fact that vogel and vrij together can also mean &#039;free as a bird&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a comment on your translation of: “VogelVrije Fietser” of which you say: (literal translation: “Birdfree Cyclist”)</p>
<p>That is not quite right, &#8220;vogelvrij&#8221; simply means &#8220;outlaw&#8221; so the literal translation is &#8216;the outlaw cyclist&#8217;. They started in a time that even in the Netherlands cyclists were seen as such. But the pun is in the fact that vogel and vrij together can also mean &#8216;free as a bird&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2010/01/13/tidbits-from-the-vogelvrije-fietser/comment-page-1/#comment-13321</link>
		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,
Thanks for clarifying even more strongly why this whole thing is nonsense. It&#039;s just a classic example of how statistics are often distorted and misused to prove whatever interest somebody wants to promote. The once the statistic war begins people often lose sight of the real underlying points.

Would getting cycled on a rickshaw powered by slave labor to your job making weapons to defend state owned tobacco plantations in an oppressed land run by a maniacal dictator be worse than driving driving a Hummer alone at illegal speeds through school zones to work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,<br />
Thanks for clarifying even more strongly why this whole thing is nonsense. It&#8217;s just a classic example of how statistics are often distorted and misused to prove whatever interest somebody wants to promote. The once the statistic war begins people often lose sight of the real underlying points.</p>
<p>Would getting cycled on a rickshaw powered by slave labor to your job making weapons to defend state owned tobacco plantations in an oppressed land run by a maniacal dictator be worse than driving driving a Hummer alone at illegal speeds through school zones to work?</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2010/01/13/tidbits-from-the-vogelvrije-fietser/comment-page-1/#comment-13311</link>
		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do enjoy a little senseless drama and competition... and am not too proud to have admit having honestly and tactlessly spoken my mind a few times, Mr. Colville. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do enjoy a little senseless drama and competition&#8230; and am not too proud to have admit having honestly and tactlessly spoken my mind a few times, Mr. Colville. <img src='http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mikael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha... negative slagging off of competitors... you must LOVE this, Mr Cutler :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha&#8230; negative slagging off of competitors&#8230; you must LOVE this, Mr Cutler <img src='http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Todd Edelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification: &quot;Non-private car mode share&quot; means all modes EXCEPT private car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification: &#8220;Non-private car mode share&#8221; means all modes EXCEPT private car.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Edelman</title>
		<link>http://www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl/2010/01/13/tidbits-from-the-vogelvrije-fietser/comment-page-1/#comment-13271</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why such an emphasis on modal share of cycling? It is certainly something good to keep track of and improve, but I think non-private car mode share is the most important, or at least just as important as cycling share, plus also collective public transport and walking shares.

But then again this is all so reductionist. Are people cycling because collective PT is too expensive? Because distances are so long that walking takes too long? How about multi-modal trips? There are so many fine points, for example how far are people cycling, are they happy while cycling, to where are they cycling, e.g. stupid jobs which counter the sustainability of cycling?. What is better, four people carpooling to a &quot;green&quot; job in a small car or one person cycling to their job at some military arms manufacturer or a firm lobbying for private electric cars, GMO food and (insert thing you hate)?

I am my own world&#039;s cycling capital.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why such an emphasis on modal share of cycling? It is certainly something good to keep track of and improve, but I think non-private car mode share is the most important, or at least just as important as cycling share, plus also collective public transport and walking shares.</p>
<p>But then again this is all so reductionist. Are people cycling because collective PT is too expensive? Because distances are so long that walking takes too long? How about multi-modal trips? There are so many fine points, for example how far are people cycling, are they happy while cycling, to where are they cycling, e.g. stupid jobs which counter the sustainability of cycling?. What is better, four people carpooling to a &#8220;green&#8221; job in a small car or one person cycling to their job at some military arms manufacturer or a firm lobbying for private electric cars, GMO food and (insert thing you hate)?</p>
<p>I am my own world&#8217;s cycling capital.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NIck,
It is true that internal gear hubs and the various gears within them have varying levels of efficiency. This is mostly a function of how many planetary sets (the actual little gears inside that enable the ratio changes are being driven through in a given gear. Three speed hubs have just one planetary set so you either pedal in direct drive (2nd gear), underdrive (1st gear) or overdrive (3rd gear) thus 2nd has only hub bearing friction, and 1st and 3rd have just the losses of one planetary set. Hubs with more than three gears often require driving through multiple planetary sets simultaneously thus it&#039;s critical that the friction caused by each planetary set is minimized. Sram/Sachs gear hubs tend to have efficient innards with awful shift mechanisms. Shimano hubs tend to have a little more friction but excellent shifters and reliability. Current generation Shimano 8 speeds are efficient enough in all gears that friction is not noticeable.

Tires vary widely in rolling resistance. Unfortunately some of the features that make a tire durable and puncture resistant also cause rolling resistance. Amongst city bike tires we&#039;ve found the Schwalbe Marathons, Vredestein Moirees, and various Continental models to balance the needs nicely. We just don&#039;t fit the Conti&#039;s because they tend to dry out and crack prematurely. It seems to have no functional effect but it&#039;s ugly and customers complain about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NIck,<br />
It is true that internal gear hubs and the various gears within them have varying levels of efficiency. This is mostly a function of how many planetary sets (the actual little gears inside that enable the ratio changes are being driven through in a given gear. Three speed hubs have just one planetary set so you either pedal in direct drive (2nd gear), underdrive (1st gear) or overdrive (3rd gear) thus 2nd has only hub bearing friction, and 1st and 3rd have just the losses of one planetary set. Hubs with more than three gears often require driving through multiple planetary sets simultaneously thus it&#8217;s critical that the friction caused by each planetary set is minimized. Sram/Sachs gear hubs tend to have efficient innards with awful shift mechanisms. Shimano hubs tend to have a little more friction but excellent shifters and reliability. Current generation Shimano 8 speeds are efficient enough in all gears that friction is not noticeable.</p>
<p>Tires vary widely in rolling resistance. Unfortunately some of the features that make a tire durable and puncture resistant also cause rolling resistance. Amongst city bike tires we&#8217;ve found the Schwalbe Marathons, Vredestein Moirees, and various Continental models to balance the needs nicely. We just don&#8217;t fit the Conti&#8217;s because they tend to dry out and crack prematurely. It seems to have no functional effect but it&#8217;s ugly and customers complain about it.</p>
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		<title>By: ten</title>
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		<dc:creator>ten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1, competition deflects attention from the real issues (and wastes internet time on trivial squabbling), cities should cooperate together to raise ALL of our cycling levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1, competition deflects attention from the real issues (and wastes internet time on trivial squabbling), cities should cooperate together to raise ALL of our cycling levels.</p>
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