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		<title>By: henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakurashinmachi and Cycle Tragic,
Thanks very much for adding your insiders&#039; perspectives. Visiting a place is very different from living there... as I&#039;ve learned through my own decade in Europe,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakurashinmachi and Cycle Tragic,<br />
Thanks very much for adding your insiders&#8217; perspectives. Visiting a place is very different from living there&#8230; as I&#8217;ve learned through my own decade in Europe,</p>
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		<title>By: Cycle Tragic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cycle Tragic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 00:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far my experience here in Japan is all good...
Your right about the ride style of the typical commuter... all over the place. 
And your right about the lack of ...I don&#039;t want to say it ... Cycling Infrastructure...(I thought that was what roads were !) 
Probably segregated Cycling Infrastructure is what scares me but thats another story... 

What I find so unique about riding here is the &#039;Respect&#039; for each others whether walking, cycling or driving... 

Its the same respect that pervades just about everything that goes on here publicly ... its sometimes detected in the cleanliness, ie supper clean street scapes and not a bin in sight... the portable ash tray...  lack of theft ie. small bike chains ...  shoes off etc...

On the local roads, whatever vehicle they choose to use, they lack typical  Western aggressive driving or riding attitudes... &#039;that my trip is all important and your in my way&#039;  is very rare...
I&#039;m used to back home in Australia for example at the lights... when they turn &#039;Blue&#039; (thats what they call green here) flooring it !!  But here I detect a definite pause .... then a somewhat slow glide of the mark...  unnatural really. 

Also in a typical uncontrolled intersection, even when they have the right of way Japanese drivers tend to wait just a second in confirmation that there action will not cause a accident. 
Again this is quite different to driving with the attitude that if there is a crash, as long as I was in the &#039;right&#039; you should have stopped....
This is a hard thing to explain but the word &#039;Respect&#039; works for me.

It is to this end that separate bike lanes seem not so important... in the many low speed environments of many Japanese town and cites. 
With this almost &#039;Zen like respect&#039; here everything just seems to work and  allows for even the ever present &#039;Salmoning&#039; (thank you Snobby) or even the acceptance of cycle/pedestrian cohabitation...

I doubt that in the West we have the Zen like qualities necessary to understand this let alone manifest it...  

As for Sports Cycling its growing, just head out to any of the Toges (passes) around Tokyo and you&#039;ll see hundreds of &#039;Bling-ed out&#039; riders in the hurt box.  Just like elsewhere in the world that has surplus there is a sports cycling boom.
As for Fixie riders, yes Japanese have an ability to perfect trends like no other and they are popular.
Better start building a reserve of cargo bikes for when that takes of here also.... Two kids and the groceries up front will be a good start....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far my experience here in Japan is all good&#8230;<br />
Your right about the ride style of the typical commuter&#8230; all over the place.<br />
And your right about the lack of &#8230;I don&#8217;t want to say it &#8230; Cycling Infrastructure&#8230;(I thought that was what roads were !)<br />
Probably segregated Cycling Infrastructure is what scares me but thats another story&#8230; </p>
<p>What I find so unique about riding here is the &#8216;Respect&#8217; for each others whether walking, cycling or driving&#8230; </p>
<p>Its the same respect that pervades just about everything that goes on here publicly &#8230; its sometimes detected in the cleanliness, ie supper clean street scapes and not a bin in sight&#8230; the portable ash tray&#8230;  lack of theft ie. small bike chains &#8230;  shoes off etc&#8230;</p>
<p>On the local roads, whatever vehicle they choose to use, they lack typical  Western aggressive driving or riding attitudes&#8230; &#8216;that my trip is all important and your in my way&#8217;  is very rare&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m used to back home in Australia for example at the lights&#8230; when they turn &#8216;Blue&#8217; (thats what they call green here) flooring it !!  But here I detect a definite pause &#8230;. then a somewhat slow glide of the mark&#8230;  unnatural really. </p>
<p>Also in a typical uncontrolled intersection, even when they have the right of way Japanese drivers tend to wait just a second in confirmation that there action will not cause a accident.<br />
Again this is quite different to driving with the attitude that if there is a crash, as long as I was in the &#8216;right&#8217; you should have stopped&#8230;.<br />
This is a hard thing to explain but the word &#8216;Respect&#8217; works for me.</p>
<p>It is to this end that separate bike lanes seem not so important&#8230; in the many low speed environments of many Japanese town and cites.<br />
With this almost &#8216;Zen like respect&#8217; here everything just seems to work and  allows for even the ever present &#8216;Salmoning&#8217; (thank you Snobby) or even the acceptance of cycle/pedestrian cohabitation&#8230;</p>
<p>I doubt that in the West we have the Zen like qualities necessary to understand this let alone manifest it&#8230;  </p>
<p>As for Sports Cycling its growing, just head out to any of the Toges (passes) around Tokyo and you&#8217;ll see hundreds of &#8216;Bling-ed out&#8217; riders in the hurt box.  Just like elsewhere in the world that has surplus there is a sports cycling boom.<br />
As for Fixie riders, yes Japanese have an ability to perfect trends like no other and they are popular.<br />
Better start building a reserve of cargo bikes for when that takes of here also&#8230;. Two kids and the groceries up front will be a good start&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sakurashinmachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sakurashinmachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Tokyo for 8 years between 1991 and 2006.  In relation to cars, people do drive them quickly on the highways - it was common on the Chuo Expressway for the road to be signed at 80 km/h, for everyone to be doing 100 - 110 km/h and for people to be blasting past at 140 km/h plus.
I never saw anyone pulled over and only knew one person who got caught in a speed-trap - and the place where he paid his fine gave him a map showing where the speed cameras were so he&#039;d know where to slow down the next time.

The speed of traffic in Tokyo depended upon how crowded the place you were going to was and I could never pick any pattern to it - that said, I then moved to London and then to Melbourne, and of the three I think Melbourne has the worst traffic.

I don&#039;t agree about the Japanese not cycling en masse - bike parking was a major problem around every subway station I used in Tokyo and there&#039;d be literally millions riding every day.

The &quot;road warriors&quot; you describe are a brand new phenomenon - I never saw any on the roads in the years that I lived there but noticed them when I was back there last year.  Basically it&#039;s the London fixie culture that&#039;s become popular in Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Tokyo for 8 years between 1991 and 2006.  In relation to cars, people do drive them quickly on the highways &#8211; it was common on the Chuo Expressway for the road to be signed at 80 km/h, for everyone to be doing 100 &#8211; 110 km/h and for people to be blasting past at 140 km/h plus.<br />
I never saw anyone pulled over and only knew one person who got caught in a speed-trap &#8211; and the place where he paid his fine gave him a map showing where the speed cameras were so he&#8217;d know where to slow down the next time.</p>
<p>The speed of traffic in Tokyo depended upon how crowded the place you were going to was and I could never pick any pattern to it &#8211; that said, I then moved to London and then to Melbourne, and of the three I think Melbourne has the worst traffic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree about the Japanese not cycling en masse &#8211; bike parking was a major problem around every subway station I used in Tokyo and there&#8217;d be literally millions riding every day.</p>
<p>The &#8220;road warriors&#8221; you describe are a brand new phenomenon &#8211; I never saw any on the roads in the years that I lived there but noticed them when I was back there last year.  Basically it&#8217;s the London fixie culture that&#8217;s become popular in Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: BlackDawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlackDawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry,
Check out http://www.i-zen.net/html/e_product03.html
It costs about 300-400€ in Israel
I guess you can find one in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry,<br />
Check out <a href="http://www.i-zen.net/html/e_product03.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.i-zen.net/html/e_product03.html</a><br />
It costs about 300-400€ in Israel<br />
I guess you can find one in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian, I&#039;m so in love with &quot;washlets&quot; that I&#039;m considering getting one for our own home. I haven&#039;t yet investigated whether there are 230V versions. Probably yes, made for other Asian markets. That was the story with our fantastic induction heated Zojirushi rice cooker.

I too, made that mistake in my first encounter with a washlet. Fortunately I had the rare peace of mind to just put my hand over the (quite powerful) spray while testing the various buttons to find &quot;off&quot;. You only make that mistake once.

Speaking of crates, I found perfect crates in one of the amazing japanese home center stores: nicely made wooden crates in a broad range of suitable sizes for the equivalent of about €10-15.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian, I&#8217;m so in love with &#8220;washlets&#8221; that I&#8217;m considering getting one for our own home. I haven&#8217;t yet investigated whether there are 230V versions. Probably yes, made for other Asian markets. That was the story with our fantastic induction heated Zojirushi rice cooker.</p>
<p>I too, made that mistake in my first encounter with a washlet. Fortunately I had the rare peace of mind to just put my hand over the (quite powerful) spray while testing the various buttons to find &#8220;off&#8221;. You only make that mistake once.</p>
<p>Speaking of crates, I found perfect crates in one of the amazing japanese home center stores: nicely made wooden crates in a broad range of suitable sizes for the equivalent of about €10-15.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely post, but what (unfortunately) resonates with me is the toilets. My cycling mates and I have been obsessed with finding an arse-washing toilet in one of the multitude of Japanese/sushi restaurants popping up around Ballard (Seattle). So far, no luck, but local mythology has it that Shiku has one in the ladies room. And I wouldn&#039;t rule that out.

A friend of mine was traveling to Japan on business and had an unfortunate encounter with a toilet at his boss&#039;s boss&#039;s house. Seems the controls were all solid-state buttons on the side, and not labeled in English or any sort of international pictogram, so he went for the largest button. Resulting in getting sprayed down face to belt with the bidet function.

And now, back to talking about bike rack crates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely post, but what (unfortunately) resonates with me is the toilets. My cycling mates and I have been obsessed with finding an arse-washing toilet in one of the multitude of Japanese/sushi restaurants popping up around Ballard (Seattle). So far, no luck, but local mythology has it that Shiku has one in the ladies room. And I wouldn&#8217;t rule that out.</p>
<p>A friend of mine was traveling to Japan on business and had an unfortunate encounter with a toilet at his boss&#8217;s boss&#8217;s house. Seems the controls were all solid-state buttons on the side, and not labeled in English or any sort of international pictogram, so he went for the largest button. Resulting in getting sprayed down face to belt with the bidet function.</p>
<p>And now, back to talking about bike rack crates.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From reading other blogs, I was under the impression that Japan has a high cycling rate.  Perhaps they were reporting from Osaka, or Kyoto.  So thanks for the overview of the entire country, not just from a particular city.

Since Japan has a strong national identity, maybe the public/private division isn&#039;t as pronounce as it exist in the west.  Many years ago, I saw a program about the corporate culture in Japan.  If I remember correctly (questionable), the show portrayed working for a corporation similar to joining an extended family.  If true, the public/private dichotomy as we experience it might be unfamiliar to someone in Japan.

The division seems to lie between high and low-tech devices, from what you describe.  Fast cars and trains have more in common than with its low-tech counterpart, the bicycle.  This might help explain its low popularity and abundance of low value department store bikes.

Also, nice observation about the lack of infra (structure) and random cycling behavior.  I know its certainly true in the suburbs of Connecticut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From reading other blogs, I was under the impression that Japan has a high cycling rate.  Perhaps they were reporting from Osaka, or Kyoto.  So thanks for the overview of the entire country, not just from a particular city.</p>
<p>Since Japan has a strong national identity, maybe the public/private division isn&#8217;t as pronounce as it exist in the west.  Many years ago, I saw a program about the corporate culture in Japan.  If I remember correctly (questionable), the show portrayed working for a corporation similar to joining an extended family.  If true, the public/private dichotomy as we experience it might be unfamiliar to someone in Japan.</p>
<p>The division seems to lie between high and low-tech devices, from what you describe.  Fast cars and trains have more in common than with its low-tech counterpart, the bicycle.  This might help explain its low popularity and abundance of low value department store bikes.</p>
<p>Also, nice observation about the lack of infra (structure) and random cycling behavior.  I know its certainly true in the suburbs of Connecticut.</p>
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		<title>By: ten</title>
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		<dc:creator>ten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article. I live in okinawa and don&#039;t know the mainland all that well. I&#039;ve seen articles about Japans bike culture but always wonder how it compares with the dutch and danish infrastructure, your article hit the nail on the head and answered most of my questions. 

And Okinawa? Wall to wall cars (in heavy rain, being 2 hours late for work is considered fairly normal). I feel like I&#039;m the only work-age human on the whole island who rides a bicycle for transportation. 

And I really want one of those dripping cupboards, anyone know what they are called or know of a link so I can see a picture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. I live in okinawa and don&#8217;t know the mainland all that well. I&#8217;ve seen articles about Japans bike culture but always wonder how it compares with the dutch and danish infrastructure, your article hit the nail on the head and answered most of my questions. </p>
<p>And Okinawa? Wall to wall cars (in heavy rain, being 2 hours late for work is considered fairly normal). I feel like I&#8217;m the only work-age human on the whole island who rides a bicycle for transportation. </p>
<p>And I really want one of those dripping cupboards, anyone know what they are called or know of a link so I can see a picture?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Vance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you heard about this?
http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/biking-in-japan-where-the-car-is-always-at-fault/

I&#039;ve never heard of a dripping cupboard until now. I want one. The plastic drip tray I have gets covered in icky mold because it doesn&#039;t drain very well (the rise is like .25 inches over 12 inches).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you heard about this?<br />
<a href="http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/biking-in-japan-where-the-car-is-always-at-fault/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tucsonbikelawyer.com/biking-in-japan-where-the-car-is-always-at-fault/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of a dripping cupboard until now. I want one. The plastic drip tray I have gets covered in icky mold because it doesn&#8217;t drain very well (the rise is like .25 inches over 12 inches).</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik,
If only all complicated products had a sort of &quot;red button to get you back to some &quot;safe&quot; state. Products would be far less scary and would encourage users to explore and better learn how to use them... but that&#039;s my former line of work: interaction design.

I believe the statistics but I don&#039;t know Japan well enough to have a meaningful opinion whether car culture is fading in Japan. Bicycle culture, in any case, isn&#039;t exactly exploding. I see more cyclists in Osaka and Kyoto but that&#039;s about the only real development I can see as an outsider. Talking to bike industry people hasn&#039;t uncovered any other trends either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik,<br />
If only all complicated products had a sort of &#8220;red button to get you back to some &#8220;safe&#8221; state. Products would be far less scary and would encourage users to explore and better learn how to use them&#8230; but that&#8217;s my former line of work: interaction design.</p>
<p>I believe the statistics but I don&#8217;t know Japan well enough to have a meaningful opinion whether car culture is fading in Japan. Bicycle culture, in any case, isn&#8217;t exactly exploding. I see more cyclists in Osaka and Kyoto but that&#8217;s about the only real development I can see as an outsider. Talking to bike industry people hasn&#8217;t uncovered any other trends either.</p>
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